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Disciples of the State: Secularization and State Building in the Former Ottoman World, p. 7-25

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Kristin Elisabeth Fabbe (MIT, 2012)

Feb 3, 2022Last updated Feb 3, 2022

Summary

In intro to thesis, Fabbe outlines how "social disciplining" helps a state rule more efficiently than through force, and how this process happens through centralized law, mass education, and co-opted religious authority. Along the way, Fabbe explains and rejects as ahistorical "secularization theory", the idea that secularization necessarily accompanies modernization.


Takeaways

Fabbe pushes back against over-emphasis on violent and economic reasons for state formation in previous literature -- reminded me of Olson's roving vs. stationary bandits

Notes

There are two main parts to p. 7-25 of Fabbe's reading: an overview of how states carry out "social disciplining" through centralized law, education, and religion; and a critique of "secularization theory", in preparation for a thesis about how post-Ottoman states co-opted rather than rejected religion to build strength

Social disciplining

  • It's costly to govern through force alone
  • Past literature has focused mostly on the violent and economic roots of state formation, i.e. war and profit (the roving bandits reading, for example) -- but state is also ideological, pedagogical; mechanisms of "state penetration" of society merit further study
  • Fabbe cites Gorski re: social disciplining
  • Three ways Fabbe says social disciplining happens
    • Centralized law and constitution -- wrests moral and governing power away from religious and traditional authorities
    • Mass education -- legitimizes state control/morality and instills nationalism among the people
    • Regulating and co-opting religion -- prevent opposition from religious moral authority by subsuming it within government bureaucracy
  • Successful secularization/social disciplining happens when state has "routine control", or hegemonic/unquestioned power as usual, over law, state, and religion

Critique of secularization theory

  • Secularization theory: modernization and secularization do/must happen in tandem
    • Idea that science and technology are in conflict with religious doctrine and authority, so individuals in modern states lose religious faith
    • Idea that religion chiefly serves social functions like community care and education, which expanding states are able to cover
    • Christian exceptionalism, belief that Christianity allows for separation of Church and State while Islam doesn't
  • Critique: secularization is complex and ill-defined
  • Critique: religious figures play big role in modern state formation (Fabbe cites Tilly)

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